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Matt Roeske, founder of Scottsdale-based health and wellness company, Cultivate Elevate, joined the Grand Canyon Times Podcast to discuss the power of electroculture which, he said, is, “the ancient practice of increasing yields utilizing certain materials to harvest the earth's atmospheric energy.”

Roeske recently wrote a blog post, “Electroculture for Beginners,” in which he wrote that, “when using electroculture there is no need for the use of pesticides, manure, or fertilizers.”

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• Introduction of Electroculture:  Roeske discussed the concept of electroculture, a method of enhancing plant growth by harnessing atmospheric energy. This practice dates back to 1835 and involves creating antennas from materials like wood and copper to stimulate plant development without the need for harmful pesticides or chemicals.

• Historical Context and Decline: Roeske discussed the historical recognition of ether (aether) as a vital energy source for growth and its subsequent dismissal with the rise of modern scientific theories. He said shift led to a disconnection from natural energy sources and an increased reliance on industrial and chemical methods in agriculture.

• Benefits of Electroculture: Roeske shared personal experiences and testimonials from others who have observed significant improvements in plant size, health, and yield through electroculture. This includes larger fruits and vegetables, increased pollinator activity, and a reduction in pests without the use of chemicals.

• Impact on Biodiversity and Environment: Roeske said electroculture not only benefits plant growth but also contributes to a healthier ecosystem by attracting more wildlife and reducing the need for synthetic fertilizers and pesticides.

• Potential for Revitalizing Agriculture: Roeske said that electroculture offers a sustainable alternative to conventional farming methods, potentially addressing food shortages and environmental degradation. 

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Full, Unedited Transcript of this Podcast:

[00:00:00] Leyla Gulen: Welcome to the Grand Canyon Times Podcast. I'm your host, Leyla Gulen. In this episode, we welcome back our guest, Matt Roeske. Matt co founded Cultivate Elevate with his wife, Amra, to help make this world a healthier place, getting back to basics and using the amazing earthly resources like mushrooms, herbs, and other superfoods that our ancestors use to heal their bodies and minds.

[00:00:26] Leyla Gulen: And today. We're going to finally talk about something that we touched on the last time we spoke. First of all, Matt, welcome back. 

[00:00:33] Matt Roeske: Hello. Hello. I'm happy 

[00:00:34] Leyla Gulen: to be back. Yes. And thank you again for sending me that beautiful care package. I was overwhelmed by the lovely products like the Dragon's Blood Capsules, the Freshwater Pearl Capsules, just beautiful stuff that have actually been.

[00:00:52] Leyla Gulen: Working on changing my lifestyle and diet these last few months, I plan on starting my new regimen this spring. [00:01:00] And speaking of which, Punxsutawney Phil predicted in early spring. So lots of spring and summertime gardeners are already planning their gardens and crops, and some of them are using this fascinating technique called electroculture.

[00:01:14] Leyla Gulen: Tell us more about what this is and how it works. 

[00:01:17] Matt Roeske: So, electroculture is basically harnessing the atmospheric energy that's all around us to increase your plant growth. And this dates back all the way to 1835 with the Royal Agriculture Society. When you think of the times of electroculture in 1835, you think of all the things with lightning rods and weather vanes.

[00:01:36] Matt Roeske: You know, the antennas that used to be all on top of all the buildings and old world buildings and cathedrals and things like that. Those antennas are actually harnessing the atmospheric energy known as the ether, or the chi, the prana, the orgone, the life force. So we have all this beautiful energy that's all around us.

[00:01:55] Matt Roeske: And what people can do is, they can make their own little beautiful antennas out of wood and [00:02:00] copper, and they can wrap them with copper, like a coil, and place them into their garden, and they'll start to notice that they won't need the toxic pesticides or chemicals. They'll get more bees, more pollinators, more birds, more insects, and all the beautiful life that will start kind of coming back to their land.

[00:02:18] Matt Roeske: But, electroculture is just an ancient practice that was used for such a long period of time. And when I first tried it out in Scottsdale on a balcony, on a third floor balcony, in a planter pot with my Moringa plant, it blew my mind because I had a Moringa plant which the average pods on a Moringa pod are like six inches when the plant grows.

[00:02:42] Matt Roeske: When I placed the antenna in and my Moringa plant had its pods, they were 14 to 22 inches long. Wow, what a difference. Yeah, so when you think of like all those old school Gigantic pumpkins everybody has they were tapping into this [00:03:00] beautiful energy And electroculture works on this same principle. 

[00:03:03] Leyla Gulen: That is so interesting.

[00:03:04] Leyla Gulen: Now, I don't expect you to be a historian as far as this goes, but when this started getting put into practice, what do you think it was that tipped people off to saying, hey, you know what? I think there's some energy out there in the atmosphere to harness that can actually help what's coming out of the ground.

[00:03:22] Matt Roeske: So, around the 1800s, people were very into the ether. The term ether was in a lot of books. I have a lot of books before the 1900s and the term ether is It just about in every single book they were they considered it the fifth element You have earth water wind and fire and then you have ether And what happened was about 1908, it was removed off of the periodic table, Ether itself, and it was debunked by Einstein.

[00:03:48] Matt Roeske: And then it kinda just went away, and we lost the connection to it. But people were very in tune with the energy. I mean, you see this with a lot of temples, a lot of cathedrals, a lot of mosques. People understood [00:04:00] that there was energy all around us and we could tap into it. And it's funny because like even barefoot grounding was very popular in the 1800s.

[00:04:07] Matt Roeske: There was a fellow named Edwin Babbitt and he was very into connecting into the ground. And there are multiple other people who were all understanding that there's energy in the ground, there's energy in the air. And as we kind of tap into that and they started experimenting with certain things like this and different types of antennas and different things, they started noticing things going crazy.

[00:04:29] Matt Roeske: And it was interesting because the Royal Agriculture Society in 1835, out of the Australian newspaper, was actually writing essays on electroculture and how much food they were producing. So, you know, when I started learning all this, I thought, then why are we doing this? We have all these like food shortages and nonsense that we're told and whatever else, but it's like we could be just tapping into the energy that's always around us.

[00:04:53] Matt Roeske: And when we look at a lot of the old world buildings, The materials that they used to use, the antennas that used to be on [00:05:00] top of them. All of those things were tapping into this unseen energy known as the aether. 

[00:05:06] Leyla Gulen: Interesting. So you're saying that Albert Einstein is responsible for getting us away from grounding ourselves.

[00:05:13] Leyla Gulen: The person who discovered the theory of relativity is actually responsible for us kind of, kind of separating ourselves from the ground and the aether and the atmosphere around us. 

[00:05:25] Matt Roeske: Pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he debunked all of it. And then, what was crazy is his ether act, or, I'm sorry, Einstein actually admitted the ether was true at first.

[00:05:35] Matt Roeske: Then over time, he debunked it. And then when we get into like 1910, 1913, you have the Rockefellers creating the General Education Board. So a lot of things were wiped. There was so much change, so many changes that took place where things were lost. But yeah, and then once it was debunked, now if you talk about it, everybody considers it woo.

[00:05:55] Matt Roeske: They consider it witchery, sorcery, pseudos. And, and that goes even into dowsing. You [00:06:00] get into dowsing where people used to take dowsing rods and they would find water, or they'd find gold, or they'd find silver, or they'd find all, or gas, because you can find everything. All they were doing was picking up on the spin.

[00:06:11] Matt Roeske: There's, there's a spin in everything. And so, same with this, with the aether, everything is spiraling. When you think of everything out in nature, it's in a vortex. Water, trees, plants. Planet itself. Go ahead, what'd you say? I'm sorry, 

[00:06:26] Leyla Gulen: the planet itself. 

[00:06:27] Matt Roeske: Yeah, there's a spin. When you think of tornadoes, hurricanes, waves, everything's spinning.

[00:06:32] Matt Roeske: So, when you tap into that beautiful spinning energy, That's what we're doing, but it was debunked and considered woo, and then once again, it was forgotten, but there, there were so many people, I'm actually writing a book on this, but there's so many people who understood all of this, and none of their names are ever spoken for, and it's sad because people should be able to have enough food to give to their friends and family, and have abundance and beautiful, high [00:07:00] quality food at their fingertips.

[00:07:00] Matt Roeske: Wasn't 

[00:07:02] Leyla Gulen: there a song that, there's a line, loving this spin that I'm in? I remember Buddy Love in The Nutty Professor singing the song. Oh, yeah, yeah. The original Nutty Professor, that is. But yeah, so, and when you think about it, during the industrial age, we were coming away from the earth. We were coming away from the world around us and becoming very dependent on products and industry.

[00:07:28] Leyla Gulen: And like you had mentioned, the Rockefellers, who Turned a pretty penny for everything that they put their hands on and Whereas before everything was was truly figuratively and literally grounded in The 

[00:07:45] Matt Roeske: and most people definitely don't know this like even the story of Nathan B Stubbenfield Nathan B.

[00:07:50] Matt Roeske: Stubbenfield was the original creator of the telephone and the radio He created a telephone in which you would plug a copper rod into the earth and you could call your friends and [00:08:00] family through the earth. And he understood that we could tap into the earth and use the natural healing frequencies. But then we had Marconi, on the other hand, who created a radio that goes into the air.

[00:08:12] Matt Roeske: But those airwaves, or those radio waves, are very toxic to our health. So we're using all this, like, secondary stuff. That's all man made and doesn't make a lot of sense and when we can be using all the beautiful earth energy That's using the earth the the energy that's always pulsing But yeah, when you get into the Rockefellers, they were snake oil salesmen Like it's crazy because I've had people call me they're like you're a snake oil salesman.

[00:08:35] Matt Roeske: I'm like I'm not the Rockefellers. They were the ones who were scamming people and then we have all of these Pesticides and fertilizer products and chemicals that are at the hardware store that are all derived from that system of the Rockefellers and the oil and the iron and that's the other thing is like what people don't realize is You go to the hardware store.

[00:08:58] Matt Roeske: A lot of these products all contain [00:09:00] a ton of iron When you put iron in the soil, you get rust and decay. And everything gets all gunked up, and, and, the plants don't do well, and, so they know what they're selling you. And then when you put, for example, copper in the soil, you bring back the electrical conductivity, you don't need as much water anymore, and the plant's light comes back.

[00:09:19] Matt Roeske: So, I started to realize that there's so many avenues of agriculture Which have been taken over and most people don't realize because like you just said it was through different like the industrial age of the iron and steel and as things went away people just got used to it and then they became dependent on the new current chemical farming system that we have today.

[00:09:40] Leyla Gulen: Oh, absolutely. And then, of course, through marketing and consumerism, I mean, we could go on and on about that. So, it's no wonder how we've become the society that we are today. Not just a society. I mean, it's the world as a whole. So, unless you're in some far corners of the earth that still tap into those [00:10:00] natural resources, we're all dependent now on this man made way of life.

[00:10:05] Leyla Gulen: But, it's not to say that Things aren't cyclical or things can change because a lot of people know their stuff, such as you, Matt, in that you are tapping into this electro culture. Now, you said that you started on your third floor balcony in a pot. How long ago was that? How long have you been doing this?

[00:10:26] Matt Roeske: So I've been doing this for about two years now, and I decided to test it out. I was on Scottsdale Road. It's a main street. There's horrible LED lights and the Wi Fi frequency and all that stuff that's all like permitting on the street and everything. And I decided to just make a little small antenna.

[00:10:42] Matt Roeske: It was very simple. It was only about six inches. It was a piece of wood wrapped with copper, and I just stuck it in my pot. And I still have that moringa tree today. It's still just doing well and hanging out in the planter pot. But you know, I started this two years ago, and then so I made a video. It was just one video, and it went [00:11:00] completely crazy on TikTok and Instagram.

[00:11:02] Matt Roeske: They hit a couple, about a million views within, I think it was like a couple weeks time. People started trying it. And now it's just taken over into a movement, and it's just wild to see the difference of like, people's plants when they send me pictures. Like, I had a lady send me beets, the size of her, of my head.

[00:11:20] Matt Roeske: Like, just gigantic beets. I had another friend who, they grew watermelons. They've been growing watermelons for a long time. They were growing 42 pound watermelons. Wow! Just astounding stuff. I had another friend with like, squash plants. Absolutely just gigantic squash. Cucumbers, tomatoes. The one lady in Scottsdale, she had her whole apple tree is just apples.

[00:11:43] Matt Roeske: She's like, I've never had this many apples before. She's like, the entire tree is apples. She said the tree was actually starting to fall because there's so many apples on the tree. So just remarkable things. And I've had people across the, all across the world do it and try it and then [00:12:00] send me. And that's what I'm putting into my book.

[00:12:01] Matt Roeske: A lot of before and after pictures and things like that. But it's remarkable to watch. And. The other funniest part about doing this was that all the animals that come, you know, I have people who have birds showing up they've never seen, I had trained mantises, I had bats, I had caterpillars, I had, I mean, anything I could think of was on my balcony.

[00:12:22] Matt Roeske: But I have people, their cats, their dogs sit next to the antennas, like all these bumblebees. I had a guy in Australia, he was, he sent me a message telling me about how he had blue bumblebees show up in his backyard. Yeah, I didn't even know blue bumblebees exist until he told me about them, and same thing, and I go, well, and he goes, where do you think they're coming from?

[00:12:43] Matt Roeske: I go, Honestly, I go, the thing is, since you're tapping into, like, the Earth's energy, we don't even know the distance in which things are picking these things up. And, there was a great book I was reading, about, by Philip Callahan, where he talked about how, like, insects, and animals, [00:13:00] can pick up on, like, infrared and UV frequencies.

[00:13:03] Matt Roeske: So, in my belief, these insects, or these pollinators, or these birds, or these animals, and all those things, They're picking up on this healing frequency that's coming from the antennas and then that's what's causing them to come in. And it's interesting too because I had a lot of people who had pests.

[00:13:20] Matt Roeske: They're like, oh, I got all these pests. They're eating my plants. Well, when they started doing electroculture, the pests went away because the only reason that the pests were coming, or the insects, were to try to clean up the plant and the soil. And it really started to make me realize that we have to look at insects very differently.

[00:13:38] Matt Roeske: We can't be like, we have to destroy all these insects. Everything works in a Well, of course. 

[00:13:41] Leyla Gulen: Well, there's a chain. It's an entire food chain. That, that's the problem though. Now we're instructed to use pest control, and I mean, now we're seeing people making themselves sick, but you gotta have the pests.

[00:13:55] Matt Roeske: Yeah, there, everything is meant to be there. And that's a sign. That it's a sign for you [00:14:00] to be aware of something is wrong. And that you have to clean up the, the soil. And take care of your soil, and take care of your plants, and also show your plants love too, because they can communicate. There was a great story from the book, it was Christopher Tompkin, uh, I forget the name of the book now, but it's Christopher Tompkin.

[00:14:17] Matt Roeske: He has a great book, and it talked about how, when people would hook up an EKG to a plant, And they were taking care of a plant, and the person who was taking care of the plant got injured, the EKG would spike on the plant. So, you start to sit there and think, okay, a person is 2, 000 miles away, they get injured, and their trees or their tomato plants all of a sudden start spiking on an EKG.

[00:14:43] Matt Roeske: What does that tell us? It shows us that we're very connected to the, to, to the plants and everything that's around us. But when all of this becomes woo, as one person would put that terminology into it, then people just think, Oh, it's just a plant. And I had one lady, it was really funny. [00:15:00] She was going to the nursery and she would go get the plants that were already have perished or basically have passed away.

[00:15:08] Matt Roeske: And she would put it electroculture antennas in them. And they'd all start coming back to life. And I, and we were talking about it. Dead dry plants? Yes, dead dry plants. So completely gone. So usually they would just throw them away at the hardware store. Yeah, yeah. And she was bringing them all back. So we had to talk about this.

[00:15:25] Matt Roeske: And we're talking about how plants, or trees, go through like a molting process. Just like an insect. And they're just in this state, which you believe that it's not actually alive, but it's in almost like a hibernation state. And that's kind of what like plants are in. So she started putting all these electroculture antennas and they all came back to life.

[00:15:46] Matt Roeske: And she goes, I get a discount because I get to buy them at 74 percent off, which was like, all the plants are back to life. And then I give them out to my friend, family and friends. So a lot of this journey through electroculture has taught me that like, [00:16:00] we don't know anything like we, we know so little about our, the realm that we live in, everything that we live amongst.

[00:16:08] Matt Roeske: And it's just mind blowing. And the one that topped it all off, to kind of make it into another part of electroculture, is there was a fellow in Switzerland who did a study, people can look into this, called the Ebner effect. And basically what he did was he took seeds, and he put them in very high static fields.

[00:16:29] Matt Roeske: And what he noticed was that plants that were put in these high static fields Would almost start to look like prehistoric plants once they were planted. So he did this with corn. He took seeds, put them in a high static field. Goes to plant the corn. The corn is like this absolutely mammoth of a corn.

[00:16:48] Matt Roeske: And everybody's like looking at it going, this doesn't even look like corn anymore. It looks like something from Genetic 

[00:16:54] Leyla Gulen: modification. Just a seed. 

[00:16:56] Matt Roeske: Yes. So, natural seed just put in high static [00:17:00] fields. And it's funny that you say that because He created this process to go against Monsanto. He actually didn't want Monsanto taking over and patenting nature with their seeds, so he actually created this process to restore nature back to its original prehistoric DNA.

[00:17:18] Matt Roeske: Okay, 

[00:17:18] Leyla Gulen: so we've got all of our commercial crops, and I want to talk about commercial crops in a second here, but when you're talking about commercial crops, everything is Now, bread, to be bigger, and not in a natural way, bigger, a lot, most of the time, less flavorful, less nutritious, is there any way to take, say, a kernel or a seed from that plant that has been, for lack of a better term, bastardized?

[00:17:47] Leyla Gulen: And bring it back to its natural state using electroculture? 

[00:17:52] Matt Roeske: So this is where it gets interesting, and that's where I was kind of going with this, but yeah, definitely. I mean, you can use copper pyramids. You can place your seeds in [00:18:00] copper pyramids, and it'll bring back what, like, the originality that it was supposed to be.

[00:18:04] Matt Roeske: But he was doing this with static fields, and basically, what I realized is electroculture is tapping into static fields. There's all these fields coming off the earth all the time, just pulsing up from down below, and we're just kind of tapping into that. So that's why people's plants each generation get larger and larger, but then also start to go back to what they used to be.

[00:18:25] Matt Roeske: Because we don't even know what things are supposed to be, but he did this too with fish eggs. And this is where it gets weird. He did it with fish eggs, where he took these trouts, and he took their eggs, And he took a little baby trout, and he put the eggs into the static fields. And when he did that, and the eggs were born, and they turned into The fish were like the size of a salmon, with the jaw of a salmon.

[00:18:50] Matt Roeske: And this was real time. This is 2016. This is like within a six month process. So, it really has started to make me start to think, [00:19:00] like, we don't know what anything like you said is supposed to look like. We don't know what things are supposed to taste like. All these foods now, like you said, they're trying to make them bigger.

[00:19:08] Matt Roeske: Strawberries and everything are so gigantic it doesn't even make any sense. And they're also getting rid of a lot of the seeds. And the seeds contain B 17, which is very beneficial to our body. B 15, all these beautiful minerals. So, we're losing the seeds, we're getting these like bigger commercial fruit foods, but then we're also losing the nutrients.

[00:19:30] Matt Roeske: And the most fascinating thing that I learned with this, and like you were just asking about that question, is there was a book from 1926, it was written in German, and they did a study on the mineral content of a plant with electroculture and a plant without. And what they noticed was the plant with electroculture had two to three times the mineral content.

[00:19:54] Matt Roeske: Of the plant without and the interesting thing about that was the plant was [00:20:00] generating and creating the minerals from the ether. So then you sit there and think, okay, if we put all this Rockefeller power lines and cell phone towers and all this stuff around us, we're diminishing the ability for the plant to function.

[00:20:16] Matt Roeske: But when we bring electroculture into our garden and we start bringing these things in and we start implementing these techniques. The plants will actually be stronger because they can actually generate their own minerals, which then makes you think, I guess we don't need fertilizer because it doesn't make any sense actually.

[00:20:33] Matt Roeske: Well, that's exactly, 

[00:20:33] Leyla Gulen: I was just going to ask you that. So, and I want to know what is sort of the perfect scenario for this electric electro culture to arrive? Do you have to have the right soil? Do you have to have fertilizer? Do you have to have a lot of sunlight, a certain climate? What are some of the.

[00:20:53] Leyla Gulen: Thresholds that have to be met in order for all of this to thrive and succeed. 

[00:20:58] Matt Roeske: So when you're making an [00:21:00] electroculture antenna, you can make them as tall as you like. The taller you go up, the more energy that you'll capture. The higher we go up in the sky, the more energy there is. And that was, uh, Herman Plawson's work with atmospheric energy.

[00:21:13] Matt Roeske: But you can make an antenna three foot, six foot. You could even make a six inch antenna. I've seen toothpicks work. But you basically want to make this all antenna, you want to stick it into the ground, but you want to take the copper. Wrap it like a coil, one part of the copper will go into the soil, the other part of the copper will go up pointing towards the sky, just like an antenna.

[00:21:32] Matt Roeske: So you make this beautiful induction coil around this, this wooden dowel or stick, and you can find a stick in your backyard. I always try to say that because it's the same frequency as you, because like we were talking about, your plants are picking up on you. But you place this antenna in your backyard, and then with, when it comes to climate, it works anywhere.

[00:21:52] Matt Roeske: Because once the sun starts to hit it, you get the reflection of the copper, which is the red hues. The red, yellow, and orange hues, which then [00:22:00] reflect onto your plants, so you get the color spectrum that they're missing. And then also because this is gathering the energy, you're now providing your plants with more energy.

[00:22:09] Matt Roeske: And if you want to take it a step further, there's two things you can do with your antenna. You can add basalt, which is volcanic ash, which has gone through the alchemy process around your antenna. Or around your soil, so that you bring all the quartz and beautiful piezoelectric minerals back into the body.

[00:22:27] Matt Roeske: I'm sorry, back into the soil. And then, when you're, with your antenna, if you want to add something, you can add lapis lazuli, which is a blue stone. Or quartz. People love wearing it. Yes, because you know why? The color blue is very healing. They used to use the color blue to heal people when their central nervous system was firing too fast.

[00:22:48] Matt Roeske: They would put them in front of a blue stained glass window. So, if you use the color blue on your antennas, or quartz, or raised quartz, you get a [00:23:00] reflection off of the color spectrum to your plants, and you can wrap it with copper, and it'll create a piezoelectric effect. And it's funny because, after third grade, we don't learn about atmospheric energy.

[00:23:13] Matt Roeske: And we'd all learn about piezoelectric. And those are two simple, free ways to have electricity. So if you think about these antennas, you're creating energy, and harnessing Mother Earth's energy at the same time. and then amplifying your field. And if you want to take it even a farther point, you can use these for chicken coops, you can use them for your cattle, you can use them for your horses, but you can design all these different types of antennas because they also help animals too.

[00:23:44] Matt Roeske: And it was interesting because Justin Christoflo was showing Where he hooked up an electroculture antenna to a chicken coop and his chickens, they got more fluffy, their fur, their feathers were a lot more fluffy, they were more healthy, they were more vibrant, they had more energy, and they [00:24:00] laid more eggs.

[00:24:01] Matt Roeske: So when you get into the whole, we're having, once again, food shortages as a whatever, well if we don't support the natural energy of our terrain, or of the earth, well then we're gonna have shortages. But if we help support it, with these techniques, we can bring all that back. Now, 

[00:24:18] Leyla Gulen: you say that sunshine plays a very large role in the electroculture and tapping into the properties of the copper.

[00:24:26] Leyla Gulen: What if you have a very shaded garden? Could you still put these antennae in your garden and have it still work? 

[00:24:33] Matt Roeske: Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can do it in a shaded place. You could do it indoors. I've had people 

[00:24:38] Leyla Gulen: And I was gonna ask that too. You can, 

[00:24:40] Matt Roeske: really. Yeah, I've had people do it indoors. I even had a buddy who was in Pennsylvania, and he put it in his potato plant that he was growing in his basement.

[00:24:49] Matt Roeske: And the potato plant outgrew the basement and he was sending me photos and he's like, dude, I don't know what to do. The potato plant is so big and I started laughing. I go, you got to put it outside though. And he's like, but it's still [00:25:00] winter time here in Pennsylvania. He's like, we still got snow, but it, it outgrew the whole basement.

[00:25:05] Matt Roeske: So you can use this indoors. You can use it in basements. You can use these antennas anywhere because like we're talking about at the beginning of this, energy is everywhere. It's all around us, and it's just, I've, I've learned over time. We just don't learn about it because you can't put a meter on it.

[00:25:24] Matt Roeske: That's pretty much what it is. It's free. It sounds like 

[00:25:26] Leyla Gulen: you can't put a meter around it, on it, around it, because when you say you can hook up an EKG to a tomato plant, to me it seems like it would absolutely be measurable. 

[00:25:37] Matt Roeske: Oh, yes, yes. With measuring, yes. I'm in a price meter. Oh, I see. Oh, 

[00:25:42] Leyla Gulen: okay. Well, it's like trying to sell fasting, right?

[00:25:46] Leyla Gulen: Either fast or you don't. 

[00:25:48] Matt Roeske: Yes. We're selling oxygen. 

[00:25:50] Leyla Gulen: Selling oxygen. That's right. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Well, this is a little bit of a self serving question, but when you talk about using these antennae indoors, [00:26:00] okay, so I live in the South and every spring, summer, you go to the local hardware store and they've got beautiful ferns that are big and fluffy and green.

[00:26:11] Leyla Gulen: And you think, oh, it's that season again. Great. I've got pots in my house. I want to fill it up with these. But then literally within a few weeks, they shrivel up, they die. I mean, I've got a black thumb, Matt. So let me just preface this. Maybe others don't have the same problem I do, but these burns and other plants, they just die so quickly.

[00:26:35] Leyla Gulen: They dry up. Do you recommend using these antennae and would that make a difference? Oh, yeah. Just kept up like regular watering and try to stick to a schedule, obviously. But could that actually improve their outcome? 

[00:26:49] Matt Roeske: Oh yeah, ferns will react really well to this. Actually, in that, in that editor effect I was telling you about, they actually used a fern.

[00:26:57] Matt Roeske: And the fern was gigantic. It was like, it [00:27:00] literally looked like something out of prehistoric times. So, ferns will work well, aloe vera will work well too. Aloe vera will start like multiplying and having babies, like crazy. But yeah, you can use that. And the other part that most people don't know. When you go to the hardware store and you buy plants, they have used a lot of chemicals on these plants to either make them green, or to make them look like they're healthy.

[00:27:23] Matt Roeske: For example, like the grow lights in the hardware store say that these lights will help the plant appear healthier and greener. So they're not actually healthy, they just look it. So you might think you say like, Oh, I'm not maybe good at gardening, but what's actually happening is you're purchasing a plant which has been pretty much drugged up with the chemicals and then they're put under these artificial lights The plant looks really green, you get it home, and the plant is actually not healthy, so then it begins to perish.

[00:27:53] Leyla Gulen: Well, that's very interesting. Are there any elements to avoid that could negate the effects? 

[00:27:59] Matt Roeske: [00:28:00] For, with the, uh, electroculture, I just, I tell everybody to stick to copper. I mean, a lot, there are, there are some people who talk about putting aluminum, but I mean, we got so much aluminum going on and it's poisoning the water supply and everything else.

[00:28:12] Matt Roeske: So I'd stay away from aluminum, but just using copper is very safe. It's very healing and it's just that I would say is the simplest way. And then any type of crystals or stones you can get into them. They're all very healing and very safe, but it's one more thing you said too, because down in the South.

[00:28:27] Matt Roeske: Down in the South, they used to wrap people in copper. People used to wear copper bracelets for arthritis. 

[00:28:33] Leyla Gulen: Yes, I swear to God, I think you're reading my mind here. I mean, some people still do. They wear copper bracelets, and a lot of people think, nice fashion statement, but that couldn't possibly 

[00:28:43] Matt Roeske: work. No, and that's, that's actually the work of George Tsiolkovsky.

[00:28:47] Matt Roeske: He actually used to wrap people in copper, and he would get rid of their inflammation and pain. So you can make a belt out of copper, you can make like a thing for your elbow, you could do on the wrist. In the south they used to weld [00:29:00] it. They actually used to weld it to your wrist so that you couldn't take it off, so that you wouldn't get arthritis, because copper is an essential nutrient to your body.

[00:29:08] Matt Roeske: All of this glyphosate that they put into the soil, the first 10 Is copper so if you think about it, everybody has a copper deficiency. We have all this iron and and glyphosate, and we don't have any copper. So wearing a simple copper wristlet can be very beneficial for your health, your brain. And I've experimented.

[00:29:27] Matt Roeske: I've done my wrists, I've done my ankles, I've done my neck. Like a necklace, how people wear necklaces and gold and silver and those. Sure. All you're doing is you're, when you're wearing all of these materials, you're just enhancing the meridian lines, like acupuncture, of your body. So your wrists are in tune with your brain.

[00:29:47] Matt Roeske: And they all run down all your blood vessels and things like that. So just wearing a simple copper bracelet works well for your health. And it's funny because like even animals they used to have copper collars. And then [00:30:00] forces used to have copper reigns. Most people don't know they used to have copper actually in their reigns.

[00:30:06] Matt Roeske: So it's like you start to see everybody used to use copper And then you take it a step further and people used to all have copper pipes. That was the most popular thing until Certain city officials began to pay people to get rid of copper pipes and switch them to pvc and plastic So it's copper is part of our Really, if you go into it, our lineage and like how it used to be everywhere, but we just lost touch with it because like you said, as things kind of took over and the copper makers and the brass and the bronze all kind of disappeared, we switched more to iron and DuPont plastic.

[00:30:41] Matt Roeske: And now when you go to the hardware store, That's pretty much what you see there. You don't see any copper at all, actually, except for now because we started talking about it. But, you know, it wasn't, I've never seen it before, 2024. 

[00:30:55] Leyla Gulen: Now, French cooks for eons have been using copper to cook with. [00:31:00] Would you say that any of those properties of the copper pots, I mean, sometimes, a lot of them are lined with tin, I believe it is, but the pot itself, if it's not coated, Could it potentially give off any of these healing properties, or do you really need to have that, that direct and constant contact with the copper for it to actually be effective if you're wearing it on your 

[00:31:27] Matt Roeske: person?

[00:31:28] Matt Roeske: Well, for a person they can wear it. You can make your own bracelets and necklaces. I mean, I've made all my own stuff. Just you could spare copper wire from Home Depot or Lowe's, whatever stores around you, and you can find copper anywhere and make your own things. I advocate people to it because then you get back into your creative side.

[00:31:45] Matt Roeske: And then as for the pans, if you go on Antique Shops, You can find pans, you can find cups, you can find utensils. Everybody used to have silver spoons, that was another popular one. Silver is a very powerful conductor. So that's [00:32:00] another one of everybody used to eat when they had their fine silver, and then they set their table with the silver.

[00:32:05] Matt Roeske: So it's like, everybody understood the electrical conductivity. And, it, when you get into what you just said about the food, this gets interesting too. If you use a lot of like, Teflon, or even just like a lot of iron, or any of that, it's deadening the food. It's taking away the electrical conductivity. So, copper pans, like you said, with the tin, that can be an option.

[00:32:28] Matt Roeske: They used to, when they used to make bread in a fire, they used to, in Italy. They would put it on a copper pan, they had copper pitchers, you had copper water bottles, copper cups. But you start to see that this was at one time everywhere, and copper helps to block radio frequencies too, which we have a lot of that with all the towers and cell phones and all the stuff too.

[00:32:50] Matt Roeske: And that diminishes the life force of food, water, and our, our natural earth. So when you get into it, It's just remarkable of how much [00:33:00] copper goes back into the times of what people used to do. But you have to ask people who were born before, like, the 1930s, usually. And they'll be like, yeah, we got everything made out of copper.

[00:33:11] Matt Roeske: But if you ask after, then it's like the completely opposite side. Because, as you said, the marketing changed over time. And it's funny because the old vinyl records used to be made out of copper. I went to this one copper museum, and they were showing all the things that used to be made out of copper.

[00:33:27] Matt Roeske: Then you got the Statue of Liberty, then you got all the Buddhist statues, then you got all these temples. Copper is everywhere. So, we need to connect back to it. That's 

[00:33:37] Leyla Gulen: how I see it. Yeah, absolutely. Did you remember, what was with this? It was this big warning about people who like to drink Moscow mules.

[00:33:47] Leyla Gulen: Don't have it out of a copper mug because you're essentially poisoning yourself. Why do you think they were saying 

[00:33:54] Matt Roeske: that? I mean, I think we have a lot of people, I mean, when I've gotten into this, we have a lot of people who [00:34:00] are in the, I guess the media world. I don't know which world you want to call it, but influencer, social media, everything.

[00:34:05] Matt Roeske: A lot of people get paid a lot of money to say a lot of things. And I've noticed it's usually anytime a trend becomes popular, or comes back, I should say it's not even a trend, but it comes back, all of a sudden they got like people paid saying, stay away. And it's interesting because every time I get a message from somebody outside of the United States, They're like, we've been using copper forever.

[00:34:29] Matt Roeske: Yeah. Well, it's like only in some part of the United States is the copper technically dangerous, but every other country in the world, they're all using it. I mean, even if you go to like Turkey, they have the little copper cups. For coffee, yeah. That's how I know. I'm half 

[00:34:45] Leyla Gulen: Turkish, so I know. 

[00:34:47] Matt Roeske: Yeah, so like the Kafta, it's the Kafta or whatever.

[00:34:50] Matt Roeske: It's a K A F T A, the Kafta. But they're like, yeah, and everybody uses copper. So then you sit there and go Okay, everybody use a stopper over there. They're all healthy as can be [00:35:00] so you have to I start to realize like a lot of people get paid and they're trying to deter us and Healthy people or healthy food or healthy societies don't make a lot of profits for our current sick care system And that's kind of what it made me realize and I've had I don't know thousands of messages at this point where people have like Inflammation pain, whatever they wrap themselves with copper and they're like, I can't believe it's gone and it's like literally cost me 3 and it's like, yeah, it's just very inexpensive material.

[00:35:31] Matt Roeske: Yeah, it's simple and now all of a sudden when my videos, this was the funny part in the middle of 2023 when all the videos went crazy and they were like, oh, and all over all of a sudden the media start talking about how there was going to be a copper shortage. And I thought, yeah, well, it just so happened that it's just going to be now that a copper shortage is going to come on.

[00:35:50] Matt Roeske: It's like, come on, like, 

[00:35:53] Leyla Gulen: I was going to ask you, did they rip down any of your videos? Because Matt, I mean, you're kind of going out on a limb here, [00:36:00] but you're really cutting against the 

[00:36:01] Matt Roeske: grain. So, Matt, yes and no. I mean, it's interesting because social media will maybe make a video. It'll go kind of crazy and then they'll turn it, they'll throttle it down.

[00:36:13] Matt Roeske: Most people don't know that yeah, what's with AI and they throttle things but some of them But that's why I started spending a lot of time on telegram because I get censored so much on Instagram YouTube tick tock I mean, they just all companies just delete me and stuff. So I really tried to put myself everywhere But yeah, I mean when you start to talk about how everything's unlimited, I mean, they definitely come and block things I I showed for example like Even just oil coming out of the earth and how it's unlimited and it's abiotic and never running out And they came and tried to delete that video and it's just like i'm showing it's here's the video and then I even took other people who were saying they were in the middle east and they're like, yeah, we got tons We don't even we laugh about price gouging and whatever else so it's like That's what we face.

[00:36:59] Matt Roeske: [00:37:00] And that, that becomes a problem sometimes for people trying to find information when they're actually legitimately looking for these things and they're blocked from this information. Yeah, 

[00:37:10] Leyla Gulen: that's really frightening. That is really frightening. Now, I want to get to this, but before we say goodbye, I want to know, obviously, I think throughout this entire discussion, it's very obvious that this technique can be used on crops and commercial farms.

[00:37:26] Leyla Gulen: Is there a reason why it's not? Because when you say that you're saving on costs as far as fertilizer goes or water, these are all things that get passed down to the consumer anyway. So when you buy that strawberry at the grocery store, It's not as flavorful, nor as nutritious as it could and should be.

[00:37:49] Leyla Gulen: So why aren't these commercial growers using these techniques that could essentially keep their profit margin the same, but just bringing the cost 

[00:37:59] Matt Roeske: down? [00:38:00] Well, many people don't know. That's the first part. I mean, I've had a lot of growers who started implementing it and their things, their, their gardens and, and, and farms have kind of gone wild.

[00:38:10] Matt Roeske: But many people don't know. The second part is that they believe that this is just woo, or witchery, or sorcery. And it's like, it's all been proven. You can try it yourself. Like, you don't even have to try to debunk me. You can just try it and see what happens. I was experimenting. And then, the third part of it is like you said, with the why aren't people doing it, it's like, Well, because a lot of these companies are connected to Monsanto, and DuPont, and the Rockefellers.

[00:38:39] Matt Roeske: You go into these three big people, they run, like, everything. So, why are they going to change things? Like, for example, if your food doesn't provide nutrition, Well, then they have something else to sell you next. So if they sell you food that's been genetically modified, it's been patented, it's been controlled, if it lands in your [00:39:00] field, they can sue you.

[00:39:01] Matt Roeske: They have the control then on the food supply. Once they have the control on the food supply, they can control you in other ways. So it's people have gotten used to that. They need chemicals. They need these things and we don't need any of this and the people I talked about even just in this podcast today Their message like you don't even hear about these people.

[00:39:20] Matt Roeske: It's sad. They discovered all these things They're all great souls and Victor Schauberger and all these people who understood all these things and here's the perfect example of why you don't hear about this. 1941, Victor Schauber, he creates copper tools, and he notices that when farmers use copper tools, they increase their yields.

[00:39:42] Matt Roeske: So he goes and pitches this to the Bulgarian government, and says, I'll give you all the copper tools so that you can get rid of the iron tools. And he goes, look at all of these farmers in Turkey. He was actually experimenting in Turkey. All of these farmers started getting crazy yields. And he proposed this to [00:40:00] the Bulgarian government.

[00:40:01] Matt Roeske: Well, the Bulgarian government at that time were getting a kickback from the fertilizer company and chemical companies. And they said that we don't want to do any of this because I'm going to lose my kickback. So they put out a broadcast on the radio and the newspaper. This is 1941 on the radio and the newspaper.

[00:40:17] Matt Roeske: If you use copper tools in your garden as a farmer. You will yield too much food and you won't make enough money. So then you're driving 

[00:40:26] Leyla Gulen: the price. 

[00:40:27] Matt Roeske: Exactly. And you think about organic, organic was supposed to come down in the price. Remember when organic came out, they were like, well, no, exactly. It's gone all it's gone up now, which doesn't make any sense.

[00:40:40] Matt Roeske: There should be more organic, but when you control the prices and you control it and you make it into scarcity. And tell people they're running out of things and keeping them in fear all the time, then you can control the price. And you can always get a kickback. And that's why, like, all of this information, that I've been censored for, there's a lot of it, but [00:41:00] it's all about abundance.

[00:41:01] Matt Roeske: Because I've started to realize that, like, I could look outside right now, and there's a, there's food all over the place. But if you're put into this mindset, then you can be controlled. And then same thing with the farmers, they then have to believe that they need to use, like, Four billion pounds of pesticides on their food.

[00:41:18] Matt Roeske: I mean, and here's the crazy part, and this is just one thing for any person to think about. If you take chemicals and spray them on your food, how can you expect to be healthy if they're poisoning your bones and poisoning your body? Yeah, and then you're gonna eat them. Like, I mean, you might as well just drink the poison because it doesn't make any sense.

[00:41:37] Matt Roeske: To do that. So if we think about it that way, it's like, okay, maybe our approach doesn't make sense and we have to kind of look at it differently and maybe there are natural ways that we can be doing things without the use of all these Industries, and I call them industries because they are, they're like an adapter to an adapter.

[00:41:59] Matt Roeske: [00:42:00] They're never addressing the root cause, which is addressing the soil and the energy and all these things. It's just selling you something to sell you something to sell you something. Let's just start with number one, fix that, and we can go from there. Sure. And 

[00:42:12] Leyla Gulen: you've heard of these, I'll make the connection in a second here, but you've heard of these little neighborhood libraries.

[00:42:18] Leyla Gulen: They're like these little almost birdhouse type things where people will leave a book, take a book, kind of a thing. What about people who take these antennae that they make themselves and then they just start sticking them in the ground and round at random places around their neighborhood or on their hiking trails or something like that?

[00:42:37] Leyla Gulen: I mean, could you essentially kind of change? The organisms around you by doing that. Oh, 

[00:42:45] Matt Roeske: yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have, do you know people who do that? Yeah, I have a lot of people do that. They send them as holiday gifts. Anytime there's a gift, they're like, they're getting antennas. So they send them all the time as holiday gifts and birthday gifts.

[00:42:58] Matt Roeske: So there's antennas [00:43:00] definitely going all over the place. And it was funny too, because when my one buddy actually did electroculture in his spot up in Cave Creek, so a little north of Phoenix. He had his neighbor come over. And he goes, I don't know what you're doing with these things, but my garden is, like, blowing up.

[00:43:16] Matt Roeske: And he goes, what do you mean? He goes, well, he's like, my, my garden is, like, two times the size, and he goes, you live, like, two acres away from me. So, I don't know what you're creating with these things, but he goes, I've seen food like this. So, we can do a lot, and this goes into the work of like Trevor James Constable, there's a book called Boom of the Future, people can look into, they were doing all these things with copper, Wilhelm Reich was doing things with copper, we can do so much at our, at the ground level.

[00:43:45] Matt Roeske: And we sometimes get paralyzed to think like we can't do much, but I mean, I put antennas all over the place and I got grass growing in the desert, so it's funny, it looks hilarious, but you know, there's so much that can be done, and I got all the birds and [00:44:00] bees and everything else, and animals will pick up on that, so we could all be doing our part even if it's just one little antenna at a time, and my whole thing of kind of why this all started was because it was 2020 or 2021, we were having those fake food shortages, And I kind of dabbled into this after, uh, an Akashic reading learning about Prop Circles and Pyramid Energy.

[00:44:22] Matt Roeske: And I thought, wow, why don't we just try this? And then it's just kind of gone crazy since then. So it's like, we all have to do our part, and we all have to do something to help elevate the energy of the Earth. Otherwise, you're at the grips of Monsanto and all their weird frankenfoods 

[00:44:39] Leyla Gulen: that are right.

[00:44:40] Leyla Gulen: Sure. And we only have a couple minutes left here, but, uh, do you have to be careful? And this is a serious question, Matt. When you plant one of these on a stormy day, should you keep your distance or could it conduct electricity that you get, uh, 

[00:44:54] Matt Roeske: Oh, so with electroculture, yeah, there, there's no, you won't get electrocuted and it won't also [00:45:00] catch lightning either.

[00:45:01] Matt Roeske: It's interesting because lightning rods were actually originally placed on top of buildings to balance out the atmosphere and remove the static off of the building. So it's something we don't think about. Your house gathers static. You walk around all the time with your feet on there and the materials and all of that.

[00:45:19] Matt Roeske: It's gathering static. So when you're placing these antennas out, you're actually balancing off the static that's building up in your house. So, when people are like, Oh, the lightning rods, I gotta worry about the lightning. Well, the only reason you worry about lightning is because Your house has built up too much static, or your land and your trees have built up too much static.

[00:45:38] Matt Roeske: And there was a, there was a famous guy in Italy, his name was Luigi Iguina. And he actually realized that when you place these antenna like devices into the earth, You can actually get rid of earthquakes. Because earthquakes are basically just a very large gathering of energy in the earth. And then it's trying to release.

[00:45:58] Matt Roeske: So you can actually use this to [00:46:00] help balance the earth having earthquakes. And then also the lightning or static buildup that's above on the ground level or going up into the air. 

[00:46:11] Leyla Gulen: Fascinating. Matt Roski, what an interesting conversation. Co founder of Cultivate Elevate and holistic lifestyle advocate.

[00:46:21] Leyla Gulen: Thank you so much. How can people find out more 

[00:46:24] Matt Roeske: about you? So they can find us on cultivateelevate. com. I have a page dedicated towards electroculture so that they have, if they have any questions, there's a whole FAQ, there's videos, there's a whole bunch of content on there for people to find more information.

[00:46:39] Matt Roeske: And then in the next, I think it will be next one to two months, I'll have my book out, which will have even more information, and that will be on electroculture as well, but, go ahead. Do you have a title? It's actually Electroculture Gardening and the Ether, so that's what it'll be called. Fantastic. And it's all about everything in which we talked about with all the examples and everything that's in there, [00:47:00] so people can see what's really going on and what we haven't been taught about.

[00:47:04] Matt Roeske: And then last but not least, we have a telegram channel, Cultivate Elevate, which has grown absolutely tremendously. And I got people putting their garden pictures in there as well too, so if people want to come in there, they can scroll through the channel, they don't got to worry about censored information, and they can see all different types of things there, and it's a beautiful community of all people just chatting with each other and having fun, which I think social media should be about.

[00:47:27] Leyla Gulen: Indeed, that's, I think, what the whole idea behind it was, but boy has it changed. Matt, thank you so much. This is so fun. Thank you so much 

[00:47:35] Matt Roeske: for joining us. Thank you so much for having me on, and